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Public Accounts Committee

Minutes: PAC(3)-05-11: 23 March 2011

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Time: 09.30 – 12.30~
Venue: Committee Room 3, Y Senedd, Cardiff Bay

Assembly Members in Attendance

Darren Millar (Chair), Clwyd West
Peter Black, South Wales West
Jeff Cuthbert, Caerphilly
Alun Davies, Mid and West Wales
Irene James, Islwyn
Bethan Jenkins, South Wales West
Sandy Mewies, Delyn
Jonathan Morgan, Cardiff North
Janet Ryder, North Wales

Others in Attendance

Huw Vaughan Thomas, Auditor General for Wales
Matthew Mortlock, Performance Specialist, Wales Audit Office
Anthony Snow
Michael Breach
James Price, Acting Director General Economy and Transport, Welsh Assembly Government
Jeff Collins, Welsh Assembly Government
Gareth Morgan, Welsh Assembly Government

Committee Staff

Alun Davidson, Clerk
Catherine Hunt, Deputy Clerk
Joanest Jackson, Legal Advisor

1. Apologies and substitutions

1.1 The Chair welcomed Committee members and members of the public to the meeting.

1.2 Apologies were received from Lorraine Barrett. There were no substitutions.

2. Review of accounting, governance and propriety issues at the Wales Audit Office: Evidence from Mr Anthony Snow

2.1 The Committee took evidence from Anthony Snow, former Chief Operating Officer at the Wales Audit Office on accounting, governance and propriety issues and the Wales Audit Office.

3. Major transport projects: Evidence from the Director General, Economy and Transport (10.30 – 11.30)

Paper: PAC(3) 5-11 (p1) Major transport projects: written evidence from the Welsh Government

3.1 The Committee took evidence from James Price, Jeff Collins and Gareth Morgan on Major transport projects.

4. Techniums: Update from the Auditor General for Wales (11.30 – 11.45)

Paper: PAC(3) 5-11(p2) Techniums: Letter from the Auditor General for Wales

4.1 The Committee received an update from the Auditor General for Wales on Techniums.

The Committee agreed to hold the remainder of the meeting in private session under Standing Order 10.37

5. Discussion of evidence

5.1 The Committee discussed the evidence it had heard during the public session.

6. Outstanding work and matters for the Fourth Assembly

6.1 The Committee agreed items of correspondence on Meeting the Challenge in Welsh Public Sector Finance and Housing for adults with mental health needs.

6.2 The Committee noted the list of legacy issues and that the report by the Auditor General on hospital catering should also be included.

Committee Service
March 2011

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