Third Assembly Plenary Meeting

Votes and Proceedings (160)

Date: Tuesday, 10 November 2009

Time: 13.30

Item 1:  Questions to the First Minister

The first 10 questions were answered. Question 3 was withdrawn.

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14.35

Item 2: Business Statement and Announcement

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Item 3: Statement by the Deputy Minister for Social Services: Social Services - This Item was withdrawn

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Item 4: Statement by the Minister for Social Justice and Local Government: Isle of Anglesey County Council - Recovery Board - Re-scheduled for Wednesday 11 November  

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14.53

Item 5: Motion to approve the General Principles of the Proposed Social Care Charges (Wales) Measure

NDM4317 Gwenda Thomas (Neath)

To propose that the National Assembly for Wales in accordance with Standing Order 23.24:

Agrees to the general principles of the Proposed Social Care Charges (Wales) Measure.

The Proposed Social Care Charges (Wales) Measure and Explanatory Memorandum were laid before the Assembly on 29 June 2009;

The report of Legislation Committee No. 5 on the Proposed Social Care Charges (Wales) Measure was laid before the Assembly on 3 November 2009.

The motion was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 7.35

NDM4318 Gwenda Thomas (Neath)

To propose that the National Assembly for Wales, for the purposes of any provisions resulting from the Proposed Social Care Charges (Wales) Measure, agrees to any increase in expenditure of a kind referred to in Standing Order 23.80(ii), arising in consequence of the Measure.

The motion was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 7.35

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15.40

Item 6: Motion to approve the Local Authorities (Alternative Arrangements) (Wales) (Amendment) Regulations 2009

NDM4319 Carwyn Jones (Bridgend)

To propose that the National Assembly for Wales; in accordance with Standing Order 24.4:

1. Considers the report of the Subordinate Legislation Committee laid in the Table Office on 14 October 2009 in relation to the draft The Local Authorities (Alternative Arrangements) (Wales) (Amendment) Regulations 2009;

2. Approves that the draft The Local Authorities (Alternative Arrangements) (Wales) (Amendment) Regulations 2009 is made in accordance with:

a) the draft laid in the Table Office on 29 September 2009; and

b) the Explanatory Memorandum laid in the Table Office on 29 September 2009.

The motion was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 7.35

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15.44

Item 7: Stage 3 Standing Order 23.57 debate on the Proposed Children and Families (Wales) Measure

In accordance with Standing Order 23.49, amendments will be disposed of in the order which the sections and schedules to which they relate, arise in the proposed Measure.  At the conclusion of Stage 3 the Minister may propose that the proposed Measure be passed in accordance with Standing Order 23.58.

The Amendments were grouped for the purposes of debate and the groupings were debated as follows:

1. Broad aims - Fuel poverty

Amendment 60

2. Broad aims - Poverty, material deprivation, median income

Amendments 69, 68, 55

3. Strategies - targets and milestones

Amendment 39

4. Child centred approach

Amendment 67

5. Strategies - consultation with relevant voluntary organisations

Amendment 40

6. Strategies - interim annual reporting

Amendments 41, 53

7. Welsh Authorities

Amendment 42

8. Play opportunities

Amendments 43, 59, 44, 45, 62, 61

9. Participation

Amendment 58

10. Part 1: Inspection - technical

Amendments 24, 25, 26, 27, 28

11. Inspection - legal professional privilege and technical

Amendments 3, 4, 2, 30

12. Suspension of registration - training

Amendment 65

13. Procedural safeguards - technical

Amendment 29

14. Penalty Notices - appeals

Amendment 63

15. Consultation - Integrated family support teams/boards

Amendments 66, 46, 47, 57, 56, 48, 49, 50, 54

16. Integrated family support team referrals

Amendments 31, 32, 33

17. Regulations - Integrated family support teams/boards

Amendment 64

18. Family social work standards officers

Amendments 51, 52

19. Children’s needs - parent/family members

Amendments 5, 6, 7, 10, 9, 11, 12, 13, 14, 23

20. Children’s needs - technical

Amendment 8

21. Schedules - technical

Amendments 34, 35, 38, 1, 15, 36, 37, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 16,

Voting was taken in the order set out in the Marshalled List of Amendments:

A vote was taken on amendment 60:

Votes and Proceedings

For	Abstain	Against	Total
14	0	21	35

Amendment 60 was not agreed.

A vote was taken on amendment 69:

Votes and Proceedings

For	Abstain	Against	Total
14	0	28	42

Amendment 69 was not agreed.

A vote was taken on amendment 68:

Votes and Proceedings

For	Abstain	Against	Total
14	0	29	43

Amendment 68 was not agreed.

A vote was taken on amendment 39:

Votes and Proceedings

For	Abstain	Against	Total
17	0	32	49

Amendment 39 was not agreed.

A vote was taken on amendment 67:

Votes and Proceedings

For	Abstain	Against	Total
15	0	30	45

Amendment 67 was not agreed.

A vote was taken on amendment 40:

Votes and Proceedings

For	Abstain	Against	Total
15	0	34	49

Amendment 40 was not agreed.

A vote was taken on amendment 41:

Votes and Proceedings

For	Abstain	Against	Total
15	0	033	48

Amendment 41 was not agreed.

A vote was taken on amendment 42:

Votes and Proceedings

For	Abstain	Against	Total
15	0	35	50

Amendment 42 was not agreed.

A vote was taken on amendment 43:

Votes and Proceedings

For	Abstain	Against	Total
11	0	30	41

Amendment 43 was not agreed.

A vote was taken on amendment 59:

Votes and Proceedings

For	Abstain	Against	Total
11	0	26	37

Amendment 59 was not agreed.

A vote was taken on amendment 44:

Votes and Proceedings

For	Abstain	Against	Total
11	0	27	38

Amendment 44 was not agreed.

A vote was taken on amendment 45:

Votes and Proceedings

For	Abstain	Against	Total
12	0	27	39

Amendment 45 was not agreed.

A vote was taken on amendment 58:

Votes and Proceedings

For	Abstain	Against	Total
13	0	27	40

Amendment 58 was not agreed.

Amendments 24, 25, 3, 26, 27, 28 and 4 were agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 7.35.

A vote was taken on amendment 65:

Votes and Proceedings

For	Abstain	Against	Total
12	0	27	39

Amendment 65 was not agreed.

Amendments 29, 2, and 30 were agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 7.35.

A vote was taken on amendment 63:

Votes and Proceedings

For	Abstain	Against	Total
12	0	24	36

Amendment 63 was not agreed.

A vote was taken on amendment 66:

Votes and Proceedings

For	Abstain	Against	Total
12	0	29	41

Amendment 66 was not agreed.

Amendments 31, 32, and 33 were agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 7.35.

A vote was taken on amendment 46:

Votes and Proceedings

For	Abstain	Against	Total
12	0	29	41

Amendment 46 was not agreed.

A vote was taken on amendment 47:

Votes and Proceedings

For	Abstain	Against	Total
12	0	29	41

Amendment 47 was not agreed.

A vote was taken on amendment 57:

Votes and Proceedings

For	Abstain	Against	Total
12	0	30	42

Amendment 57 was not agreed.

A vote was taken on amendment 56:

Votes and Proceedings

For	Abstain	Against	Total
12	1	30	43

Amendment 56 was not agreed.

A vote was taken on amendment 48:

Votes and Proceedings

For	Abstain	Against	Total
12	0	30	42

Amendment 48 was not agreed.

A vote was taken on amendment 49:

Votes and Proceedings

For	Abstain	Against	Total
12	0	30	42

Amendment 49 was not agreed.

A vote was taken on amendment 64:

Votes and Proceedings

For	Abstain	Against	Total
11	0	29	40

Amendment 64 was not agreed.

A vote was taken on amendment 50:

Votes and Proceedings

For	Abstain	Against	Total
11	0	29	40

Amendment 50 was not agreed.

A vote was taken on amendment 51:

Votes and Proceedings

For	Abstain	Against	Total
11	0	33	44

Amendment 51 was not agreed.

A vote was taken on amendment 52:

Votes and Proceedings

For	Abstain	Against	Total
11	0	33	44

Amendment 52 was not agreed.

Amendments 5, 6, 7, 8, 10, 9, 11, 12, 13 and 14 were agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 7.35.

As amendments 66 and 48 were not agreed, amendments 53 and 54 fell.

Amendments 34, 35, 38, 1, 15, 36, 37, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21 and 22 were agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 7.35.

A vote was taken on amendment 62:

Votes and Proceedings

For	Abstain	Against	Total
11	0	32	43

Amendment 62 was not agreed.

Amendment 16 was agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 7.35.

A vote was taken on amendment 55:

Votes and Proceedings

For	Abstain	Against	Total
11	0	32	43

Amendment 55 was not agreed.

A vote was taken on amendment 61:

Votes and Proceedings

For	Abstain	Against	Total
7	0	36	43

Amendment 61 was not agreed.

Amendment 23 was agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 7.35.

All sections and schedules of the proposed Measure were deemed agreed, concluding Stage 3 proceedings.

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18.40

Item 8: Stage 4 Standing Order 23.58 debate on the Proposed Children and Families (Wales) Measure

T

he Minister proposed that the proposed Measure be passed in accordance with Standing Order 23.58

A vote was taken on the Measure:

Votes and Proceedings

For	Abstain	Against	Total
36	7	0	43

The Measure was passed.

The Measure, as passed, will be available at the following link:

Children and Families (Wales) Measure

The meeting concluded at 18.43

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The Assembly will sit again in Plenary at 13.30 on Wednesday, 11 November 2009

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